Wed, 30 Dec 1998 10:22:55 -0500 - from Kara

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<<Yes, there is a breeder friend of mine who does a lot of rescue in Indiana and she did turn this dog down as he is quite aggressive. This could be one of the tough calls, it is hard enough to place a dog that is easy to live with but I for one will not deal with aggressive dogs as the liability issue is far to great. Not only do you take the chance of one of your dogs being injured but a very real and very expensive possibility of being sued if the dog bites and injures a person.

Judy Peters
PJMin Pins>>

I didn't get your post until after I'd already gotten him. He's really very affectionate and well-trained with humans. He's better trained than my dog (which may not be saying much since Lexus pees anytime and anywhere he wants to), but for now I'm pretty much keeping him away from my dog. I definitely always feed them in separate rooms just to be safe. The only time I let them out together is late at night when they're both pretty calm, but then he's only been here one day. I don't know, as I don't have much experience doing this, but I think he would be excellent in a home with no other dogs, and pretty good if there were larger dogs in the home. He thinks he can intimidate Lexus because he's bigger (he's also right).

When I had him out last night by himself he curled up next to me on the couch and fell asleep. He's very affectionate, but looks very undernourished. I don't know if that's part of the aggression or not. He follows me around the house everywhere I go, like he's afraid to let me out of his sight. I think it would be a good permanent placement if he went somewhere where he was the only dog and could get all the attention.

I guess this is the 3rd time his owner has let him get out of the house. He's already microchipped and heartworm negative. I really think he needs to be neutered soon. His name could be Horny Boy the second.

Is your friend with a rescue organization? I didn't know anyone else in Indiana was doing rescue for minpins besides Pam and myself. Maybe we could coordinate stuff with her.

Thu, 31 Dec 1998 18:28:39 EST - from Pam

I met Kara and picked up Buddy.....geez is he a big one but boney. My fun ha ha has begun as he is dog aggressive. Stopped at the pet shop people petted him he has allowed me to handle him, my husband absolutedly no problem. Brought him in and put in the crate as he immediately growled and was aggressive immediately with my minpin and other male....not with my female mutt. Currently no one is growling they are eyeballing one another esp. Doucie and Buddy but Buddy is in crate. We are slowly trying to introduce them. If things don't get better will need an immediate home. I see NO PEOPLE AGGRESSION. This pet shop I sometimes frequent is pretty sharp on training and knowledgeable about dogs and they could not see any signs of aggression. Although we all agree he is way tooo large for the breed. His coat is not in good condition....very flakey. Kara had bathed him and he is as she said very loveable. At this time no way would I send him to a home with another dog. He is not neutered and will call my vet. He is not as hyper as Doucie. This is a sweet dog with people but a not with other male dogs. I can use all the suggestions the list can give......Pam N Friends plus Buddy our foster child

Fri, 1 Jan 1999 16:03:30 EST - from Pam

Whew all dogs out together now in the same room.....it has taken time and patience but we are here and not that I am not really watchful. Jake and Buddy had a confrontation earlier...I grabbed Buddy and got bit not anything worth much.....that has been only human thing and that is my fault for getting in the middle....but Jake is very strong and it scared me something would happen. He went to the store with my husband and is now in his lap snoozing....so maybe once neutered the male thing will stop as he and jake continue from time to time to have to work this out.
Wendy you are right they do work it out and I am such a worry wart that I overly react probably....Happy New Year to the Best.....Pam N Friends

Peeing contests a new way to housebreak

Fri, 1 Jan 1999 17:31:09 EST - from Pam

Jake pees, then Doucie pees where Jake peed then Buddy pees where Jake and Doucie peed, then Buddy pees and then Jake pees where Buddy peed then Doucie pees where Jake and Buddy peed......and the saga goes on. Buddy diagnosed as food bowl aggressive just shared food with Doucie but did have a grumbler when hubby gave out pieces of boiled chicken....we are surviving and the first day everyone is alive and no one is bloodied......this is a nice dog so far. Keep your fingers crossed that he continues to discredit his reputation.....Happy New Year as I brace for a snow storm.....Pam n Friends

Sun, 31 Jan 1999 20:01:58 EST - from Pam

I met the Turners in Indianapolis today and turned over Bubba. I will tell you my heart is breaking. I know these are great people and he will be terrrific with an 18yo. They have taken in other rescues so I feel they will be prepared and use the patience needed to allow him to adjust to new surroundings. I guess you feel like you trick them....he thought oh boy oh boy a car ride and he did get to go to a big Italian Birthday party with treats and everything before we met so he had a good time. I hope to see them on the list and I will send the $35.00 they reimbursed me for his neutering to Imps as a farewell gift to my friend, Buddy.....Rescue the bitter sweet work...but say prayers for Bubba that he is home at last.....Pam N Friends

Sun, 31 Jan 1999 20:15:50 -0800 - from Rie

Pam - knowing that their Manchester rescue died of old age at 14 (they didn't get her until she was 8) should help ease some of the emptiness. These people really, really wanted a min pin, so I would say that he is in his forever home. Good Job!!!

Rie Shields